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The PS Inspiration Thread

Admittedly getting a little manic waiting for my flight, but I've been wanting to start this for awhile now - a thread on anything and everything that you think is inspiration to PS. Game trailers, songs you heard, art you saw, threads from other forums, and so on and so forth.

Just a way to keep things lively. And now....dun dun dun! :

The Cafe De Nuit Walking Dead (MATURE) Psychology Thread (Mentions RL stuff like eating disorders in context of undead, PLEASE take note): http://www.fraternityofshadows.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7757

"A good example might the individual mentioned in the "Coin Cannibal" thread ... a man so obsessed with taking his wealth with him that, after death, the man contiues as some kind of hungry dead with a craving not for flesh, but money. The creature gravitates toward high currencies first, and only accepts less if none is to be had or hunting becomes too difficult in an area. A bloated, misshapen creature with a massively distended stomach which can result in some strange sounds when it stumbles into objects, or is struck by a blunt weapon; like the sound of coins shifting within a heavy purse. A fact that may have got more than a few muggers and pick pickets into more trouble than he'd been looking for. "

Paper Cutting Sculptures: http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/intricate-paper-cutting

Gemineye's Poetic Blood Lines: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ydutKWEoA

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Ginsberg's Supermarket in California: http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/a-supermarket-in-california/

Ginsberg's Howl: http://www.wussu.com/poems/agh.htm

"I'm with you in Rockland - in my dreams you walk dripping from a sea-journey on the highway across America in tears to the door of my cottage in the Western night"

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It's funny you bring this up. Yesterday I was down in Houston and spent a few hours at the Menil Museum. It's great, and especially cool was an enormous white white white chamber featuring a collection of (mostly very small) artifacts from various Arctic Circle cultures. The room was slightly other-worldly to begin with, and then there was this wall of masks, much like (and possibly including some of) these:

Inuit 1 Inuit 2 Yupik

Obviously these were made by people and it's worthwhile to think about who those people actually were and why they made these things, but that's not to say that I didn't spend some of the drive home turning a Planescape-y lens on them and knocking that around a bit. Which was fun, even if nothing substantive comes of it.

Also, the Menil has this, which frankly requires no fantastical re-imagining at all.

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Love that stuff. Heh, my cousin was wondering what he was going to in Houston, now I have a suggestion for him!

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Woodkid songs:

Baltimore's Fireflies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TxsatYWSm8

Iron: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSkb0kDacjs&feature=related

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The outsider art from Dungeons and Drawings is incredible, and the whole site has great versions of the D&D bestiaries:

http://dungeonsanddrawings.blogspot.com/search/label/type%3A%20outsider

Also, I love the Odopi in Mechanus:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VHckO_GAxJg/TWpz_vaD9JI/AAAAAAAABkI/fhtcJTBr43...

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Oh, inspiration TO Planescape. I thought it was inspiration FROM Planescape.

Yeah, I believe in one of the topics (one about Limbo, but not the renovation project-- it was someone asking for help on an adventure he was DMing), I posted a list of D&D- relevant paraphilias (many I made up on the fly by adding the root Latin/Greek-based words together, like polymorphophilia) I also posted one on interesting psychiatric disorders and delusions-- which gets REALLY interesting in a D&D world since well-- some of that stuff-- could actually happen (for instance, maybe the crazy woman's husband or son really WAS replaced by an imposter)

I'll have to dredge up the post (it has some interesting stuff on fetishes of the fiendish races-- for instance, a fetish for receiving bribes.)

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In my timeline, I used the Hindu, Buddhist, and Aztec view of time and the creation cycle as the basis, since as I saw it, this would likely be the route that the 1~3E writers would have taken if it ever came up (as opposed to Christian or Norse mythology, where there is a limited, set number of creation cycles-- whereas in Hindu and Aztec mythology, there is no limit to the number of future OR previous creation cycles-- the universe has always gone through cycles of creation and destruction, much in the same way that Abrahamic religions view God as never having a beginning. Buddhism, however, does possess a final creation cycle, though it still posits a near endless number.)

Ah, my delusion and fetish stuff was in the Pandaemonium renovation thread.

DELUSIONS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capgras_delusion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotard_delusion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_parasitosis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fregoli_delusion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermetamorphosis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndrome_of_subjective_doubles

Cotard delusion could get VERY interesting if it's just a monothematic delusion *not very likely in most real world cases-- a monothematic delusion is a delusion only involving a single theme or subject, and is generally a result of an organic brain disorder-- such as an injury, tumor, or scarring-- rather than a psychiatric disorder.* and the subject belongs to the Dustmen faction...

(Another interesting scenario would be an asylum patient or otherwise crazy colonist who really DID encounter someone who takes on various forms, is impersonating other members, etc.)
Some of these are a tad more difficult to encorporate into Planescape of course, since most of them involve real phenomena in the D&D world.

This would also be of significance on the Outer Planes and in Sigil:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_syndrome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stendhal_syndrome
(a very similar but usually much milder syndrome to Stendhal is seen among some astronauts when they first gaze upon earth from space)

PARAPHILIAS (obviously for mature players, only)
For definitions and names of real-world fetishes, you can easily find glossaries and dictionaries of the stuff online.
Some of these also expand upon the real-life definitions of the term, though many are made-up.

--Algamatophilia: aka Galateism; sexual arousal towards statues. In the D&D world, this includes people (most commonly medusae) with the specific fetish of watching victims turn to stone.
--Angelophilia: Angels in particular
--Animal Play: Sex acts where the submissive partner is (sometimes elaborately) treated like a quadruped animal. (known IRL as ponyplay, puppyplay and dogplay)
--Anthropophilia: Attraction or arousal to humanoid/monstrous humanoid type creatures, despite not being a humanoid/monstrous humanoid oneself. Generally, those capable of having this fetish are quadrapeds and other non-bipedal, non-humanoid-shaped creatures, including sentient objects.
--Automasochism: Someone who becomes aroused from inflicting pain or injury upon themselves.
--Automatophilia: Golems, homunculi.... also living constructs (modrons, innevitables, etc.)
--Avianthrophilia: Attraction to bird-like humanoids, such as aaracokra, kenku, tengu, ravenkin, or raptorians, despite not being an avian oneself.
--Balnophilia: 1. Arousal from seeing someone submerged in water 2. Fetish for having sex while submerged in water 3. Fetish for having sex in a bath
--Carnephilia: In the D&D world, this refers to an attraction to flesh-based beings. Elementals, sentient objects, and Living Constructs are generally the only types who possess this fetish.
--Celestial Humiliation: A fetish among some lower planar races, esp. *and almost exclusively* prison wardens, that follows the same train of thought as animal play. It consists of treating a fiend like a celestial. This is also used as a cruel and humiliating interrogation technique. The fiend is usually treated as its celestial opposite (e.g. Baatezu are treated like Eladrin, while Tanar'ri are treated like Archons). The techniques can get quite elaborate and dangerous, and may include forcing the victim to hold or wear sacred objects for several minutes. This form of torture will invariably drive a fiend insane, as this really is a form of brainwashing of sorts (when I say that fiends are treated like celestials, I mean 100% literally), and the fiend eventually loses its sense of identity and grip on reality.
--Coprophilia: (you don't wanna know) May also involve otyughs and creatures native to the Paraelemental Plane of Ooze.
Deinovetulaphilia: Hags
--Daemonophilia: One with a fetish for Yugoloths, but who themselves is not a yugoloth
--Deinovetulaphilia: Hags
--Demonophilia: One with a fetish for Tanar'ri, but who themselves is not a tanar'ri.
--Diablophilia: One with a fetish for Baatezu, but who themselves is not a baatezu.
--Dracophilia: Dragons, of course. Does NOT include dragons when polymorphed into the same creature type as the partner, and creatures of the dragon subtype are not eligible for this fetish.
--Edgeplay: (knifeplay) Oh, gosh, does this ever have additional uses in the D&D world, from combat to cult sacrifices...
--Elementaphilia: Should be fairly obvious.
--Entymoanthrophilia: Attraction to insectile humanoids, such as Thri-Keen, despite not being insectile oneself.
--Fiendish Humiliation: Same as Celestial Humiliation, except that it involves treating celestials like fiends. It brings about the same end result as its opposite (insanity)
--Formicophilia: Someone who becomes aroused from having hordes of insects crawling over or inside their body. A fairly common fetish among Drow (note: the term literally means "ant-love", though it refers to all insects and also arachnids. It derives from the term "formication" *lit. "anting"*, which is the sensation of insects crawling all over a portion of one's body, and is a common tactile hallucination. It was so named because non-hallucinatory formication almost invariably occurs when one disturbs an ant mound)
--Garnish Pimp or Garnish Whore: Both are unisex terms referring to those (esp. lower planar races) who become aroused by receiving bribes. Which term is used depends on how favorably the speaker views the fetishist. The terms often used as well for a non-fetishist who enjoys or enforces victims to give them bribes.
--Gigantophilia: Attraction towards those one or more size categories larger than the fetishist.
--Heterophagophilia: Arousal from cannibalizing a member of one's own race, or arousal from being cannibalized by a member of one's own race
--Icthyoanthrophilia: Attraction to fish-like humanoids such as sahuagin, anguillians, even merfolk-- despite not being a fish-type oneself.
--Kleptolagnia: Arousal from stealing.
--Magiphallophilia: Fetish for magic rods, wands, or staves (I sense a 1/2E joke coming in!)
--Magiphilia: Fetish for magic or users of magic.
--Magizoophilia: One with a fetish for magical beasts, but who themselves is not a magical beast or animal.
--Mammalophilia: Arousal to mammalian individuals, despite that the subject not being mammalian themselves.
--Masochism: Arousal from having pain or injury inflicted upon oneself.
--Mortaliphilia: Fetish for committing sexual acts with mortals, often in exclusion to one's own species. Typically, only elementals, outsiders, and living constructs can possess this fetish.
--Mucophilia: Someone who um... is attracted to oozes, or uses them in sexual acts (you knew this was coming sooner or later). Mostly limited to societies where worship of Ghaunadaur or Juiblex is commonplace, and among the truly insane. It's not uncommon for mucophiles to be attracted to aboleths and ropers as well.
--Nanophilia: Arousal to subjects one or more size categories smaller than oneself. *note: sex acts between subjects with one or more size category differences may lead to severe injury without magical augmentation*
--Noctodeinovetulaphilia: Nighthags
--Oneirophilia: In the D&D world, this refers to a fetish for performing sex acts with a recipient while in a Dreamscape.
--Polymorphophilia: Arousal from performing sexual acts while under a polymorph effect, or arousal from having sexual relations with a partner under the effects of a polymorph effect.
--Protodemonophilia: One with a fetish for (Pelor forbid) Obyriths, but who themselves is not one.
--Psionicophilia: Fetish for psionic users or psionics.
--Pyrophilia: (fire) IRL, arousal from watching fires burn. In the D&D world, pyrophiliacs also become aroused by casting fire-based spells and may be sexually attracted to fire elementals.
--Sadism: Arousal from inflicting pain or injury on others
--Sauroandrophilia: Fetish for scalykind races, even though one is a mammal, avian, or some other non-reptilian race.
--Spectrophilia: 1. arousal from an image in the mirror 2. arousal from sex acts with incorporeal undead
--Sthenolagnia: 1. Arousal from a demonstration of strength 2. sexual attraction to unusually or abnormally muscular specimens of a race *usually one's own* 3. sexual attraction to highly muscular and bulky humanoid/monstrous humanoid races, such as orcs
--Stigmatophilia: Arousal to a partner whose skin is tattooed, scarified, scarred, pierced, etc.
--Symphorophilia: Arousal from arranging a disaster, explosion, accident, or crash. One of the most common fetishes among Yugoloths.
--Teratophilia: Attraction towards deformed, mutated, or disfigured creatures.
--Theophilia: Subject who fantasizes about performing sexual acts with a deity or watching a deity perform sexual acts. Most churches consider this to be pure blasphemy, though some churches of pleasure deities (e.g. Sune) permit or even encourage it.
--Timophilia: Fetish for money or wealth
--Transpolymorphophilia: Arousal from polymorphing into the opposite sex
--Unnecrophilia: Undead, of course (corporeal, only)
--Unnecrosadism: Arousal from inflicting pain and/or injury/damage to an undead partner
--Vore (Vorephilia): Arousal from watching a creature get eaten, devoured, or engulfed by another creature.
--Xenophilia: One with a fetish for aberrations, but is not themselves an aberration.
--Zoomorphophilia: Someone who prefers to perform sex acts while in wildshape or to perform sex acts on a partner who is in wildshape.
--Zoosadism: Sexual sadism towards animals

There are a few definitions I have not included. They're either too graphic (body modification) or too vile (I think you know exactly which ones I'm referring to), and even the former would only be encountered in a D&D setting if you're using Quintessential Temptress/Encyclopaedia Arcane Blue Magic/Valar Book of Erotic Fantasy.

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The outsider art from Dungeons and Drawings is incredible, and the whole site has great versions of the D&D bestiaries:

http://dungeonsanddrawings.blogspot.com/search/label/type%3A%20outsider

Also, I love the Odopi in Mechanus:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VHckO_GAxJg/TWpz_vaD9JI/AAAAAAAABkI/fhtcJTBr434/s1600/odopicolour.png

Those are wonderful! I notice there are a lot of planar monsters in those illustrations that aren't outsiders, too, including elementals, constructs, aberrations, humanoids, and undead. So I'd definitely recommend people look at the whole blog, and not just the outsiders.

(It's funny to me that you used the phrase "outsider art," since in the art world that means art by people without formal training, and I don't think this applies).

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Clockwork taxidermy: http://www.kontraband.com/pics/10650/Dead-Clockwork-Animals/

I'm not sure if they're necessarily appropriate, but they call out "Mechanus".

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Jem mentioned this guy on the KQ Open Design project:

http://www.glassonion.com/catalog/home.php

(Art of Michael Whelan.)

Great stuff.

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Rip - heh, good point about outsider art. Smiling

This song seems to fit cosmic beings that are intertwined yet at odds - Law & Chaos, War & Peace, Life & Death:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfzRlcnq_c0

It's The Civil Wars Poison and Wine.

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Also, love the suggestions people have brought up - clockwork taxidermy to fetishes to tribal museum pieces.

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Josh Ritter's Remnant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1rHVffeO3w

"I know who you are old man keep running
I walked across the bottom of the lake below
Your boat and did you know that when you landed I was watching
As the sky turned dark as the eyes of a foal

And I'll know you by the shift of the wind in the cobwebs
The sawdust swirls in the fins of the bullheads
The craters that you made when you lay down dreaming
Strange constellations that you gave new meaning
By the teeth marks you made on bones from the ice age
Then smell of the cinder burning slow in your rib cage

Listen in the distance and you'll hear my shadow
Footsteps soft as the tread of an echo
And up through the blue I knew the stars were tumbling
Up through the blue I knew the stars were tumbling

And the ground will open out into a mouth below us
And the mouth will open out into the empty sky
And the whistle as we hurtle through the halls of onyx
The only sound around us as we go by

And I'll follow you out through the wells of charcoal
Moonlit stones around the cones of a black hole
Through the fields where grow the ever and forever
The tessellated blooms with the voids at their centers
Through the million rooms in a bead of luminescence

The filaments on the looms of dimension
The pillars of creation where they make the planets
The billion tiny teeth that tear the charge from your atoms
In a trillion tiny bites they'll eat the meat from the pearl
And throw your soul away a cold grey little world"

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Rifts "Create a Colossus" Art Contest Entries: http://browse.deviantart.com/contests/2011/rift/

Example:

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What in the world is that? It looks like a cyberized water elemental firing a laser...

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Sadly his band is not nearly this inspiring:

http://bit.ly/qG8yeA

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The Messengers, Monsters, and Moral Instructors of Islamic Literature:

http://www.fantasy-magazine.com/new/new-nonfiction/the-messengers-monste...

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Ginsberg's Supermarket in California: http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/a-supermarket-in-california/
Ginsberg's Howl: http://www.wussu.com/poems/agh.htm
"I'm with you in Rockland - in my dreams you walk dripping from a sea-journey on the highway across America in tears to the door of my cottage in the Western night"
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Really like this group's sound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arqaJAAM6pQ&feature=related

"Some things, secrets people die with..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okLsIkwdYjA&feature=related

"I can see a wrecking ball coming for the house..."

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"The Judging Eye has opened.

She feels it leaning through her worldly eyes, pressing forward,
throwing off agony like rotted clothes, snuffing fact from sight,
drawing out the sanctity and the sin. With terrible fixation it stares
into the oblivion spilling from her palm...

And somehow, impossibly, passes through.

She blinks on the far side of contradiction, her face and shoulders
pulled back in a warm wind, a breath, a premonition of summer rain.

And she sees it, a point of luminous white, a certainty, shining out
from the pit that blackens her grasp. A voice rises, a voice without
word or tone, drowsy with compassion, and the light grows and grows,
shrinking the abyss to a rind, to the false foil that it is, burning
to dust, and the glory, the magnificence, shines forth, radiant,
blinding...

And she holds all...In her hand she holds it!

A Tear of God."
-The Judging Eye

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This has incredible inspiration material:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/26/underground-river-amazon

Covering more than 7 million square kilometres in South America, the Amazon basin is one of the biggest and most impressive river systems in the world. But it turns out we have only known half the story until now.
Brazilian scientists have found a new river in the Amazon basin – around 4km underneath the Amazon river. The Rio Hamza, named after the head of the team of researchers who found the groundwater flow, appears to be as long as the Amazon river but up to hundreds of times wider.
Both the Amazon and Hamza flow from west to east and are around the same length, at 6,000km. But whereas the Amazon ranges from 1km to 100km in width, the Hamza ranges from 200km to 400km.

I can't wait to find out what manner of amazing things live down there! This is the most exciting news I've heard/read since I watched the Documentary "What Darwin Didn't Know" (it centered around switch/trigger genes and how it related to evolution-- while the documentary didn't bring it up, it was obvious to me that this discovery explained most congenital defects, as the vast majority of trigger genes in our bodies are one-time triggers that activate during the first 5 weeks of gestation. For instance, the lobster claw deformity would be a result of one or more of these genes failing to signal to the cells in the hand to form fingers.)

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Lupe Fiasco is either an Anarchist or a very direct ghaele or fierre eladrin:

"Your child's future was the first to go with budget cuts
If you think that hurts then, wait here comes the uppercut
The school was garbage in the first place, that's on the up and up
Keep you at the bottom but tease you with the uppercrust..."

‎"You get it then they move it so you never keeping up enough
If you turn on TV all you see’s a bunch of “what the f*cks”
Dude is dating so and so blabbering bout such and such
And that ain't Jersey Shore, homie that's the news
And these the same people that supposed to be telling us the truth..."

"We scared of almost everything, afraid to even tell the truth
So scared of what you think of me, I’m scared of even telling you

Sometimes I’m like the only person I feel safe to tell it to
I’m locked inside a cell in me, I know that there’s a jail in you"

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Here are some tidbits I just wrote up of a scene from the Law-Chaos war. Cryonax, Sunnis, and Yan-C-Bin are waiting outside a meeting room where the Wind Dukes are discussing Brista Pel's murder, the dilemma caused by Imix's rampage, etc. The meeting is currently closed-doors between the wind dukes only, but after it is finished they intend to have a meeting with the archomentals, celestials, and other allies of law. In the meantime, Yan-C-Bin is being antagonistic because he is very, very bored. (I haven't proofread it yet)

"By the way, have any of you heard the juicy rumor about one of our traitorous bretheren, "The Hag"?" Yan-C-Bin asked playfully. There was silence for a moment. "Which one is that? .... ... Olhydra?" Cryonax asked dispassionately. "Bingo! How nice that I am not the only one who thinks she has the face of a fleshling hag!" the Air Prince responded. "Get to the point,", Sunnis demanded sternly. Yan-C-Bin blew in two quick circles before returning his gaze to the other archomentals. "Yes, yes, well, You're familiar with the loathesome Obyrith called "Dagon", correct? Well, it seems that Dagon and The Hag are an item, now," Yan-C-Bin explained. Sunnis's chisled face twisted with revulsion, while Cryonax raised an eyebrow. "I have no idea if they got together before or during The War, but I've heard they have reproduced," Yan-C-Bin continued. Sunnis let out a scream of utter disgust. "I always knew she was demented..." Cryonax muttered. A sharp grin appeared all the way across Yan-C-Bin's body from end to end as he addressed the Earth Princess. "Hee hee, it's a horrible mental image isn't it! Ah ha ha ha!" With that, Yan-C-Bin returned to spinning in circles. "Hee hee, you know you're homely when the Obyrith is the better looking one in the relationship!" Yan-C-Bin chortled. After a long pause in thought, Cryonax mumbled something; "I wonder what the progency might look like..." Yan-C-Bin frowned as he turned to the Bleak Monarch. "Hey, you're supposed to be disgusted, not curious!" the Air Prince whined. "Both of you shut up, you're making me sick!" Sunnis growled.

this takes place a few minutes later.

Cryonax and Sunnis both perked up, obviously sensing something. "We've got company," Yan-C-Bin commented as he continued to fly in a figure-8 pattern. There was a slight ground vibration, and suddenly, lustrous clear crystals began to burst forth from within the ground. Over the course of a minute or so, the crystals began to take the shape of a man, until finally, they formed into a familiar, many faceted humanoid figure clutching a jeweled crystalline scepter.
"Oh, it's only you..." Cryonax muttered stoicly. Sunnis rose to her feet, her chisled hands balled into tightly clenched fists. "Crystalle...!", she hissed, "you egotistical vortex...! I should kick your ass for the cruelty shown to my people...!" Crystalle gazed at the woman haughtily. "Please, Emerald-Eyes... Your dirt clods are well aware of the penalties for trespassing into my domain," the gem-like archomental retorted. " Sunnis scowled with outrage and took a battle-ready pose. "Dirt-clods?! How dare you speak of my bretheren in such a way!!"
"Now, Sunnis, is that any way to speak to your boyfriend?" Yan-C-Bin teased. Crystalle and Sunnis both turned their attention to the gaseous prince. Crystalle simply gave Yan-C-Bin an annoyed and condescending glance. Sunnis, however, was noticably more irate with the prince. "Silence, you pompous windbag! Don't even joke about such a thing!" the princess screamed. Yan-C-Bin, feigning surprise, edged even further away from the chisled colossus. "Oh, my mistake, of course, you wouldn't consort with a guy far more attractive than yourself, how silly of me," Yan-C-Bin taunted.

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heh, I like Yan-C-Bin, and also how much less dour/serious the elementals are depicted than in usual fictional portrayals.

also, more art: http://davidproch.deviantart.com/

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^^It's meant to be somewhat humorous, but Ogremoch and Cryonax are quite dour and serious (neither one has a sense of humor) I should write out more. I had some on the scene where Ben Hadar accosts Cryonax, but my hard drive died. (prettymuch Cryonax was acting all calm and like "you're acting like an idiot/where's your pride" while Ben Hadar is mega pissed, to the point that he flows right into Cryonax's aura and takes some damage.)

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Would love to see more. And now, words from Unwritten #28:

"You've got to touch something. Some kind of -- tap root. You're aiming to tell a story that people don't have to *consciously* buy into...because they feel like they're already a part of it."

"Radio. And newspapers. Movies. Paperbacks...Whatever you call them, Miri. They're the future, is what I'm saying."

"Actually...the future is the audience who reads and watches those things, isn't it? A million people, all dreaming the same dreams. Dreams that will still be there when they wake up. That's what I want to do, I think. Reach into people's minds, and paint dreams there."

"That's...inspiring."

=-=-=

"It's brilliant. You're telling stories with real resonance, now. Real depth."

"I'm making myths. For an age that doesn't have any of its own yet."

=-=-=

"...I'm a cuckoo. I incubate my young in other people's brains."

"Ontogenesis."

"On to where?"

"It means coming into being. The start of a life. An entity. A unique individual."

"Is that so?"

"Are we still talking about cuckoos?"

"We're talking about kids. And stories. It's a parallel process. The two are exactly comparable."

"How do you figure that, Mr. Tallis?"

"First thing we do for a kid is make a story for him. Who he is. Who he's gonna be. What is he before that story hits him...The story is what makes him human."

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If I were to give advice to someone who wanted to either write fantasy or DM a fantasy campaign, it would be this: Study history. Not industrial-era/modern history (unless it suits your campaign), but ancient and medieval history. You will get SO many ideas from that. Pay particular attention to the very different cultural mindsets of different societies/periods, and the ways that the technology available influenced the culture.

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I definitely agree -> Any particular books you have in mind Z?

Also, Infinity Room: http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/the-infinity-room

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Strikes me as a different and excellent vision of a plane of Law.

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Yeah, when I saw it I thought it'd be great as a distant corner of Mechanus or perhaps some past/future version of it.

Also, for those born into eeking out a life in the Lower Planes:

"I wish I knew what it was like."
"What what's like?"
"To live without fear...I'm terrified."
"You don't act afraid."
"The seed of my life's flower has landed here. It is my responsibility to bloom. I'm always afraid, but I try to bloom..."
-Never Knew Another

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This song always makes me think of limbo and the slaadi:

"Floating in this cosmic jacuzzi
We are like frogs oblivious
Soon the water starting to boil
No one flinches, we all float face-down"

- Incubus, Warning

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Cool song, like these lines:

"What's so wrong with being happy?
Kudos to those who see through sickness."

From In The Night Garden by Cathrynne M. Valente:

"They called me Knife. When I was young and my strength was taut as a bow string, I was the best rider of all the young girls. I had many necklaces of jasper and wolf-tooth, three fine hunting knives, a strong bow that I could draw into the shape of the full moon, a quiver full of arrows fletched in hawk feathers, and a wildcat hide from my first kill. All around me were the wild, honey-colored steppes, the fat deer we hunted, and the sleek, brown, fragrant horses I loved. They ran like ripples in a mountain lake. I ran alongside them, and rode astride them, and I slept against their flanks.

I was happy, the sun was high. I had enough."

=-=-=

"It was black, and vast, and all the other things you might expect a sky with nothing floating around in it to be. But the sky was only a sky if you looked at it slantwise—if you looked at it straight, which of course, no one could, because there wasn’t anyone to look any way, it was the long, slippery flank of a Mare.
The Mare was black, and vast, and all the other things you would expect a horse the size of everything to be."

=-=-=

"But after the Stars hid themselves away, the things they touched were still where they had left them, full of light, the light which was blood, and they
glowed with the silver and white of it. And these things were special, flea-bed mine—where they were stones or plants they passed their light into
deeper stones and into their seeds, and where they were people, they passed the light to their children, which diminished just as it had when the
Stars first touched the world and the blood went out of them. It was not long before no one could tell what had been touched in the first days and
what had not. The light was buried and secret.

But it was not gone. In many things and many people it is still glowing, deep down in their guts, and this, my scraggly, milk-bellied kid, is what magic
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OK, I apologize if this is too much of a tangent and perhaps should be a separate thread; but in the interest of reducing clutter, I'll tag it on here.

Originally, I found most of my inspiration for Planescape through two methods:
1) Thinking of the planes as embodiments of ideas rather than alignments. Telling me Acheron is a place of "Lawful Evil shaded with Neutrality" doesn't inspire ANY ideas for me; but saying it is a place of bitter, soul-crushing conflict where individuality serves the greater mass, that both creates a mood and plants a lot of ideas for me.
I personally have even ignored alignment if I thought a certain being or group fit with the abstract idea of the plane
2) Trying to place members of a known pantheon (Greek, Norse, Babylonian, etc.) into various spots on the planes. Since I don't care about alignments as much, it opens various approaches for me if I want to place the members of (let's say) the Japanese pantheon mostly in one plane or spread across several. There are such rich mythologies to tap into that these provided me a lot of material and ideas.

While I could always read (or re-read) more mythology, I find that I'm running out of ideas. So my general question is that when you want to add lots of detail to an existing plane (or want to create a new [demi]plane), what approach do you use?
Or does everyone just add to the planes in small portions as you find random inspiration in books/songs/art/etc.?

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Yeah, I think a lot of it comes down to reading different things, or seeing some artwork, and getting inspired.

I like what you're saying about the themes of the planes over their alignments. At the same time I like the conflict the Multiverse provides as souls, gods, and locations are sometimes forced to adhere to the constraints of alignment.

For me, I usually find something that makes me think of Planescape, sometimes a planar location or a faction or just that sense of exploring the immeasurable within and without. So both Mage games remind me of Planescape and vice-versa.

There is also the magical surrealism aspect of Planescape I think need to be revived and encouraged. Hell, I just finished reading the Night Circus and that had a big Planescape vibe for me, every tent could be a realm or site.

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The movie Insidious gave me a pretty good PS vibe. What they referred to as "The Further" made me think a bit of the Far Realm, or maybe just some nightmarish corrupted corner of the Astral/Plane of Dreams. I didn't expect or know anything about this movie going in - figured it was just another "evil child" horror schlock - but it was really quite entertaining.

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Palomides wrote:
While I could always read (or re-read) more mythology, I find that I'm running out of ideas. So my general question is that when you want to add lots of detail to an existing plane (or want to create a new [demi]plane), what approach do you use?

The approach I lean towards is taking an interesting idea or image or whatever and then simply thinking for a while about "What if this was a thing?" Trying to answer that question doesn't even have to be overtly creative or inspired - in fact, I think that taking a fantastical premise seriously can potentially lead to far more interesting places than explicitly trying to dream up cool or crazy stuff.

Check the 'Enumerating the Parallel Multiverses' thread if you haven't already - lots of great examples there of single kernels followed through to dramatic and awesome conclusions.

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Heh, this is a nice bit of synchronicity - Colin McComb on coming up with good planar locations:

http://www.koboldquarterly.com/k/front-page10714.php

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Various works of Catherynne M. Valente, including her entire first novel Labyrinth here:

http://www.catherynnemvalente.com/free/

Here is part of the Labyrinth's opening:

"Roads. Oh god, I cannot speak of it, but the Roads have filled
me entirely, stuffed and crammed into every corner, oozing out
of my body like icy caviar. They are my avenue-bracelets and
my fat sapphire street chokers, my gold scarab short-cut
armbands and my boulevard harem anklets, they are my
cobblestone coin belts and my alleyway-agate earrings. Long
Paths criss-cross my torso like ammunition belts, and the innumerable
dead-ends pierce my breasts beautifully, hanging
pendulously, swinging with laughter, slapping triumphantly
against my bronzed belly.

And. There are here tremors ofDoorways. They appear in the
morning like dew-dampened butterflies, manic and clever.
They travel in packs. At night the hinges change from right to
left, or vanish completely. Some are no more than flaps of fur,
iridescent in the light of the Walls, or sweeping veils of gauze
and silk, long curtains like a woman’s hair. Like my hair. Some
are hard and ornate, carved with a fantastic code of Arabic and
Greek, letters drawn in a paste of crushed diamonds and the
hooves of a drowned horse, written with the elegant tip of a
black cigarette holder. These have heavy knockers and bulbous
knobs, brassy and baronial, in intricate shapes; I have seen a
knob like a griffin’s fierce mouth, open in a scream with her
tongue made of rose quartz, feathers fanning out magnificently
in silver on the face of the Door. And a falcon-claw knocker all
of amber, the reptilian talon, the three terrible nails ending in
their razor points, all wrapped about with the leather of
bondage, the flying trails of a hunter’s bird cascading down the
polished Door, ending in a large lacquered ball with which to
strike and enter.

But they are not beautiful to me, any longer. They cluster
whispering and break and dance in and out of vision. And they
hunt...."

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Meh, not my cup of tea. I prefer the sterile, scientific, dispassionate narratives to ones which contain the speaker's/writer's bias. (and you'll note, that is also how I write out my articles as opposed to the usual Planescape style. I much prefer this since it allows more flexibility for the DM and doesn't clutter his head with biased descriptions. Very important after all, depending on the races of your adventuring party. For instance, a party of humans or elves will have vastly differing views of beauty and weirdness or hideousness compared to an adventuring party of Githyanki. After all, the gith possess features that most humans associate with poor physical health, such as long, spindly bodies, grayish skin, lack of a nose, and little to no bodyfat. To the gith, humans are probably about as ugly as a female giant-- too stout, muscular, and distorted.
In comparison, a Tiefling is probably less likely to find a fiendish creature or fiend to be ugly or hideous, but likely to find something repulsive about celestials and celestial creatures. You also have to bear in mind the mindset of the player, as well. Myself for instance, I find very few natural creatures in our world-- including arthropods, to be ugly, weird, or disgusting. Elephant seals are one of the few examples that come to mind *shudders* it looks like they have fatty tumors growing off their noses, and I like most types of bugs and such *colorless/carrion maggots gross me out though because you can see their undulating muscle movements and such*. Thus, I'll probably roll my eyes if a DM describes a giant spider from the perspective of an arachnephobe. Hell, arachnephobes tend to make me roll my eyes in general.)

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Honestly, I'd be interested in seeing such meetings between varied races played out from multiple, narrative viewpoints. Balanced bias is my game I guess. Smiling

I enjoy your takes on the aesthetics of the different groups Hyena, especially the elemental mentality!

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Hyena of Ice wrote:
Meh, not my cup of tea. I prefer the sterile, scientific, dispassionate narratives to ones which contain the speaker's/writer's bias. (and you'll note, that is also how I write out my articles as opposed to the usual Planescape style. I much prefer this since it allows more flexibility for the DM and doesn't clutter his head with biased descriptions.

But of course Valente is writing novels, not RPG gazetteers. Her style is certainly her own - there were points in Palimpsest where I got genuinely frustrated, wishing that for once she would unwrap the puzzle box of prose and explain what the hell was going on - but that does nothing to diminish my opinion that her imagination is completely stupendous (and in a very PS-inspiring way indeed).

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Various works of Catherynne M. Valente, including her entire first novel Labyrinth here:

Oh my, but that's fun to read.

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Anything by Plugin <em></em> Not Found. Not necessarily their videos, but definitely their music. It's very... otherwordly...

*Edit*
Okay, after watching a video on the site, I have to say that Plugin <em></em> Not Found is a great example of ideas conquering actions.

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But of course Valente is writing novels, not RPG gazetteers.

Yes, but even then I much prefer novels that simply describe what's going on-- I don't mind a little bit of bias flavor there, but I don't much care for narratives.

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Palimpsest is a difficult read, I'm having trouble getting through it - at first I was wholly in love with the book but yeah, the narrative feels purposeless at the moment. These kinds of novels that Valente writes are hard because there is more description than narrative.

She does have other works that cleave closer to traditional storytelling, though I have yet to get through them.

For me, it depends on my mood. I'm always surprised by how light Martin can be on description while still managing to immerse you in the conflicts of Song of Ice and Fire, though I also read to feel the power of the word itself and so people like Valente, with their prose poetry, are authors I come back to.

Mieville and Bakker are two authors who strike a good balance between poetic prose and driving a story forward.

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Try slogging through Finnegan's Wake sometime. Half the words are made up. And there's not really a detectable plot or a solid narrative. Really funny book though...

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Will definitely give it go, heard good things about it. Started Gravity's Rainbow today, feels PS-esque so far.

Also, want to point out Valente has great short stories and poetry at that link as well.

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Rafael Sarmento: http://rafa-insane.deviantart.com/

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Hyena of Ice wrote:
For instance, a party of humans or elves will have vastly differing views of beauty and weirdness or hideousness compared to an adventuring party of Githyanki. After all, the gith possess features that most humans associate with poor physical health, such as long, spindly bodies, grayish skin, lack of a nose, and little to no bodyfat. To the gith, humans are probably about as ugly as a female giant-- too stout, muscular, and distorted.

Dwarves. Eye-wink Humans might look to githyanki kind of like what a dwarf does to a human. "They're so short... and ugly... with that thick, squat build and coarse bone structure. And bad manners!"

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You are the daughter of the sea, oregano's first cousin.
Swimmer, your body is pure as the water;
Cook, your blood is quick as the soil.
Everything you do is full of flowers, rich with the earth.

Your eyes go out toward the water, and the waves rise;
your hands go out to the earth and the seeds swell;
you know the deep essence of water and the earth,
conjoined in you like a formula for clay.

Naiad: cut your body into turquoise pieces,
they will bloom resurrected in the kitchen.
This is how you become everything that lives.

And so at last, you sleep, in the circle of my arms
that push back the shadows so that you can rest--
vegetables, seaweed, herbs: the foam of your dreams.
-Neruda

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